okay, they've got me

[fflo]

As I was telling queerbychoice, I found it hard to maintain my usual "marriage-schmarriage" attitude when I heard about Del & Phyllis, who apparently didn't particularly care whether they were married but were just doing it for the young people, who'd asked 'em. I mean, how can you not be just a little touched by this?:



And now I'm hearing tales of the camping out at the courthouse and looking at pix at this site and, no, I still don't think relationship status ought to convey any benefits in taxes, insurance, inheritance, etc., but I am touched nonetheless. All those folx standing up for their love. Makes me wish I were in SF just to suck up some of the energy.

But maybe it's just my own heartsickness. Or maybe I'm just hormonal. Right?

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[groovesinorbit]

And here's another article about the weekend: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/7971121.htm

It's touching me, too, and the whole idea of weddings usually puts me off my feed. There's just so much going on here that rises above the political and cynical, it deserves to be allowed in for a bit.

[queerbychoice.livejournal.com]

I'm becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the whole call for destroying marriage at all, because there are just so MANY people calling for it, and although almost all of them find it convenient to reference how marriage was historically connected with women being property of men, a disturbing proportion of them seem to be really more interested in how marriage nowadays gives women a right to their fair share of the actual property of men when they divorce after a woman has given up her career for her husband and destroyed most of her future earning potential by the loss of those years of working experience (not to mention that she'd just have never been paid as much in hte first place due to being female).

For example, this misogynistic creep (http://www.livejournal.com/users/word_virus_ss/33944.html) who opposes marriage. I don't care that he's queer by choice, I still want nothing to do with him. Nothing at all. The very fact that he wants to abolish all marriage makes me think that abolishing it is a horrible idea.

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[fflo.livejournal.com]

Geez, he calls you hostile.

Of course you make some good points. Know what's still a hang-up for me, though? When dykes refer to the "wife." And, yeah, it feels worse to me when it's a butch-y partner of a femme-y woman using the term. That servile property connotation is too ingrained in the word, at least to me.

On the other hand, I had to agree with a friend who said she thinks lesbians should use the high-commitment word "married" more in, and sooner into, our often-very-codependent living situations, just to admit what a comingling is going on. It annoys her when we bring the U-Haul on the second date and then say "Well it's not like we're married or anything."

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

What an asshole. I looked at a recent post... besides being a misogynistic asshole, he's a racist.

What amazes me is that people like him often seem to have such huge followings on LJ. It just boggles my mind. I suppose fashion wins out over substance these days.

[eve-l-incarnata.livejournal.com]

That's just a lovely photo, no matter what the circumstances.

[best clueless male voice]Well honey, women are always hormonal![/best clueless male voice]

I think I'm too tired to discuss the institution of marriage. I was very, very against it until I realized that my lover could probably get me some spiffy health benefits (I was without insurance) if we would get married. I'd still do it to be able to live in another country.