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Maybe what I've got is a vocabulary problem.

I was just looking up "tautological" to see if it had any special meaning in mathematics, and thinking how learning words like that sometimes, with the "There's a name for that phenomenon" aspect, make meaning gel or crystalize or solidify or what-you-will. Meaning is only metaphors and assigned associations, after all. Oh, maybe it's more than that, and a logician or linguist or neuroscientist or psychologist could flesh out the subject for me nicely. But none of them are around at the moment, anyway. It's just me and the insufficiently strong coffee.

But learning the names for rhetorical devices, fer instance, can turn you on to when a rhetorical device is being used on your ass. You know?

I don't know what I'm talking about. It's not exactly what things mean that I can't get at; it's what I feel about them. Or is that the same thing? How can you think about anything at all, the way doing so at all thoroughly makes it one big swirling mess of nothing? Is it wiser not to think about anything much, or to think only a tiny bit, in a flip, cursory way, unless the problem at hand is something like how to build a suspension bridge or a better mousetrap or something so superbly grounded in the physical?

I am now ready to accept your awards for Most Vapid Entry On My Friends Page Today.

Date: Jun. 28th, 2006 01:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] paperkingdoms
I was talking with someone a while back about the sensation of losing one's words, or not being able to find words for things. And for as frustrating as that can be, we also talked about how sometimes finding words for things changes the things you've found words for - either because they drag all their associations along with them, or because the words aren't *quite* right, but you grab for them anyway, and deciding on those words changes the underlying Thing.

So... that's what this reminded me of. ;^)

Date: Jun. 28th, 2006 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fflo.livejournal.com
Now you're reminding me of one of my motivations for studying sign---the hardest one to explain to most people, so I didn't usually bother. And one does think differently in sign language---I'm guessing it's more differently than how differently one thinks in another spoken language, at least if the other spoken language is Indo-European. But I don't really know, never having acquired a second spoken language.

The other thing I think of is how we aren't born thinking in words, and we make that transition. Or a transition into a good portion of a part/style of processing that happens in words. Being around very young people interrupts something, or deflates something, involving being accustomed to putting a lot of stock in verbiage.
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