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fflo ([personal profile] fflo) wrote2005-12-20 02:20 pm

N*A

No, the "*" isn't a W. It's an S. I'm talking about the government agency so much in the news these past few days.

It's not on the topic of domestic surveillance per se, but I keep finding myself thinking about a conversation I had with my old pal who works for N*A now. It was a conversation in which he tried to justify, using that old blackmailability argument, the screening for homos the agency did (& surely still does) in its hiring process. If you've got this thing in your life that's so scandalous, the notion goes, it could give foreign agents something to use against you. He did seem to buy that an entirely out-to-the-whole-world queer was no threat by that line of reasoning. But he was never near with me on the selectivity of investigating this particular potential point of blackmail.

The alternative example I gave him was that of the heterosexual married worker who's cheating on his wife. Wouldn't he be every bit as blackmailable? Maybe even moreso, depending on his circumstances? This is what I've been contemplating. I don't recall his ever having a decent response there. But he had/has a belief in normalcy that might well make him think me facetious, comparing a taboo perversion with what happens in regular people's lives. (I won't tell the story about his security clearance being held up, though the reason behind that delay seemed at least as important as whether he s**ked d**k.) (Look at me, [faux] cleaning up my foul language!)

I've gotta say, though: you KNOW this stuff in the latest set of revelations (such as we know of it) isn't the only spying "we" are doing on U.S. citizens. I mean, c'mon. Who you kiddin'. Jeez-oo-Pete. Criminey.

[identity profile] queerbychoice.livejournal.com 2005-12-21 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, but you know heteros tend to have such a firm conviction that being revealed to have cheated on their spouses with 500 different opposite-sex partners is never anywhere near as embarrassing as it would be to them if they were revealed to have been faithful to a same-sex lover for 50 years.

[identity profile] vjsmom.livejournal.com 2005-12-21 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
The alternative example I gave him was that of the heterosexual married worker who's cheating on his wife. Wouldn't he be every bit as blackmailable? Maybe even moreso, depending on his circumstances? This is what I've been contemplating. I don't recall his ever having a decent response there.

Pretty funny that he didn't have an answer for that one, I s'pose. I would think that person could be blackmailed--sure he (or she) could.

Nothing that the N*A does surprises me--I'm only surprised that Bush has admitted to authorizing any of it. I'm sure what he & the agency have admitted to is only the very small tip of a very large iceberg.

and beyond

[identity profile] shmizla.livejournal.com 2005-12-21 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
i was fortunate enough not to watch any tv for years until last week, when i ended up watching lou dobbs bc my car wouldn't start and i had to calm down by doing nothing with my head. lou dobbs, however, did not allow me to do nothing with my head bc he ranted for an hour about the foreigners and how they were going to starve to death the american middle class. then i head more of the same on npr, and then i heard a latina at my hair salon speculate about how many of the 5000 foreign students who come to the u.s. every year were likely to blow something up. i wasn't aware we had become the central problem this country is facing, although i had some suspicions we were heading there. the generality and strength of these convictions to strike me as quite forceful, but i'm hoping we won't be made to wear any insignia so that our presence can be known to others (who might want to remove themselves from the spaces we occupy and might want to blow up upon departure, or before).

Re: and beyond

[identity profile] fflo.livejournal.com 2005-12-21 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I had something optimistic to say in this regard, but the danger is clear, and ever-hovering on the horizon, with its occasional attack & return to readiness. I'm hearing a slogan for a horror film, Xenophobia: "It's loose and limber and ready to spring into dominance at the least excuse." I have some vague idea about economic interests (and possible pending economic downturn) tempering its power, but no time just now to figure out how to put that.