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Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 28th, 2005 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteralway.livejournal.com
I always loved the rounded twin tails that give the B-24 "Liberator" that hulking, obsolete, 1940's car or appliance look. I've always been fascinated by the aspects of aircraft design that don't really have any serious engineering rationale--they are just what someone thought looked "aerodynamic" at the time. As far as I can tell from a youth wasted building plastic airplane models, the planform of the rudder/vertical stabilizer tends to be as much an artistic outlet for the designer as anything. Or maybe they just designed my mom's old refrigerator to evoke the tail of a B-24.



So is there a waitress there named "Flo" who stutters?

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 28th, 2005 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fflo.livejournal.com
There's no stutter, Peter! The two Fs together are pronounced as one might be. Recall that it's a contraction. I guess the first apostrophe could sub for "Buf" and thus I'd just be " 'F'lo ," but I prefer " 'Ff'lo ."

Don't know nuthin' 'bout no aerodynamics.

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteralway.livejournal.com
Intellectually, I know it should be read as "Flow" or maybe even hinting at "fa-low" but the littile voice inside my head that talks to me when the little squiggles come up on the screen always says "Faflow" to me, and you just can't argue with the voices in your head. Another LJ-er Iknow is qnvhrtz, which is based on her vanity licence plate to be read "Queen of Hearts." But the little voice in my head insists on saying "Quivenhurts." Brains. You can't live with 'em, you can't live without 'em.

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 12:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] groovesinorbit
I think I used to have a model of that plane that I built. Is that the one with the gunner in the belly, that I think I can see in your photo?

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteralway.livejournal.com
Yes the B-24 had a gunner in the belly, though several other bombers did as well. Distinguishing characteristic No. 1 for the B-24 was the twin rudders. If your model had them with that distinctive straight-sided oval shape, it would have been a B-24. Plastic kits of the B-24 would have been easy to come by. But there were other twin-tail bombers. Like the B-25 (also easy to come by), which had different, more angular rudders, but only 2 engines. Also, earlier versions of the B-24 had a "greenhouse" glass nose instead of the nose turret in the photo I posted (again, I know there was a Revell kit with the greenhouse nose, and a belly turret that was memorable because it was retractable if you made it right). So it is entirely likely you had a B-24, but it could have been something else.

You know, I made something over 200 plastic airplane models during my adolescence (I inherited my brother-in-law's dad's collection of unbuilt models when I was 12 or 13, so I had an essentially unlimited supply). As a result I have an immense fraction of my brain full of geometric trivia about WWI and WWII aircraft. I haven't dusted off those corners of my brain in probably 20 years. I've kind of repressed all of that, and I'm in serious danger of geeking out on plastic airplane models if I'm not careful.

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirrelykat.livejournal.com
geeking out on plastic airplanes, in my opinion, isn't a bad thing.
there are worse things to waste brain power on....

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fflo.livejournal.com
My brother, following in my father's footsteps, was also fascinated with WWII aircraft. After my mother died I ceded all the books in a series on aircraft to him in exchange for claiming the one about spacecraft. I still have it---I'll have to show [livejournal.com profile] peteralway sometime.

Which reminds me, J.---I still have that thing for him from you/MR!

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteralway.livejournal.com
I took a small part of the household's aviation library with me. A lot of the books are still in [livejournal.com profile] tnatj's basement now. I might have room for those in the not-too-distant future...

My dad was really into aviation. There is a collection of hundreds of aircraft photos he took at museums and airshows in my brothers' basements. It's really a shame that they aren't available for viewing. Maybe someday I should scan in a selection of them.

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 05:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] groovesinorbit
I can't remember the rudder set-up, but I do remember mine had the greenhouse nose. Must have been a B-24 then. I went through a phase of building model planes. Much fun. My faves were a P54 Mustang and a Fokker triplane. And I agree with [livejournal.com profile] squirrelykat: there are definitely worse things you can waste your time with.

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fflo.livejournal.com
Well, I made a biplane for Snoopy once. Or was it for the Red Baron. I think the latter...

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 06:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] groovesinorbit
The Fokker was the Red Baron's, all red with the iron crosses on the wings.

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fflo.livejournal.com
well, the plane i remember was red with crosses on it!

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 08:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] groovesinorbit
Well, there ya go!

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteralway.livejournal.com
You mean like this?



That is actually a current lego set. Here is the online description:

http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?p=10024&cn=57&d=14&t=7

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 30th, 2005 12:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] groovesinorbit
Ooh, a lego triplane. Cool!

Re: the "bomber"

Date: Mar. 29th, 2005 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteralway.livejournal.com
I looked into the depths of my hobby room today--I actually have a partially-built B-24 model in its box. I got it because my condo complex was, I was told, built in WW II to house the bomber plant workers (I have also been told it was built after the war). I told people it was "Rosie the Riveter's old house. In fact, I think I have some original art a guy did for me on that theme. I'll have to see if I can find it and scan it in.

My dad's favorite was the P-51 Mustang. I actually still have a little 1/72 Fokker Triplane stored in a box. I should find a place to display it.
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